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elf ([personal profile] elf) wrote in [community profile] lj_refugees2017-04-04 02:31 pm


LJ's Russian overlords have changed the TOS - and the new official version is only in Russian. The short synopsis: They're making a lot of changes tied into Russian law about online content. Adult content ratings, liability for comments on your blog, etc. Oh, and they've hyped up the advertising.

Lots of people talking about backing up their journals and moving to DW; some are going to IJ. Many journal deletions and lockdowns.

So, new people... welcome? DW has been slow but it's very friendly, and it's run by fannish people who want us to enjoy our time here.
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[personal profile] lauramcewan 2017-04-04 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I expect we'll start seeing a good influx! I hate that I have to kill my LJ, given it's a permanent account that was a gift...but I'll back it up one more time and then kill it.

I'm so sad. :(
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[personal profile] mackiedockie 2017-04-05 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Welcome to DW! I hope you reconnect with some new and old friends--I've noticed a lot of fans from HL and other core fandoms are mirroring and migrating. It is a good space, here.
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[personal profile] lauramcewan 2017-04-05 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I've been here a while, just cross posting. It'll be nice to see more move over!
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[personal profile] kshandra 2017-04-05 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
I was in the exact same position (gifted permaccount, posting natively here and mirroring back), so you have my empathy.
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[personal profile] lauramcewan 2017-04-05 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks. It's such a bummer. :(
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[personal profile] veritas_poet 2017-04-05 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I saw something about a new TOS but I didn't have the mental energy to read it all. What I saw was in English but I don't know if that was an old version or what.

I appreciate the way DW treats its customers, but I wish they had better image and video upload capacities like LJ does. And I wish there was ACTIVITY here.

I'm just talking to myself day after day. It's tiresome.
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[personal profile] veritas_poet 2017-04-05 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
The new version in English has a warning on it that it's not official, and a link to the official Russian one.

That doesn't even make sense. Why bother? I am so glad I have left there and backed up on DW. Except I miss my friends and comms. Sigh.

Russia has no freedom-of-speech nor privacy rights. They are claiming the right to send you ads through your LJ email, and requiring "adult content" to be labeled as such - and by Russian law, that may mean "any content that even mentions the existence of gay people."

In one way, I hope that it will cut down on the filth on LJ. I am sick of seeing homosexual pornography everywhere I go. Especially in fandoms geared towards CHILDREN, like Harry Potter fandom. And even in Real People fic, where people make up homosexual pornography about real people who are not even homosexuals. LOTR fandom is overrun with that trash.

The aggravating thing is the same liberals who will defend this stuff to the death are the same sorts who are all in support of shutting down conservatives, Christians and ANYONE who speaks facts about Islam. Hypocrites!

Blog posters may be responsible for the contents of comments. Blogs that get over 3000 views in a day (or, that have over 3k followers; details unclear and are in the Russian version) are subject to "mass media" rules, which may require contact info/legal names being provided. (The owners, not the commenters.)

That's the stupidest thing I've heard. Everyone knows that regardless of the content of a blog or website, the comment section is a cesspool of people spewing profanity and abuse of all sorts! Why is it the owner's fault what these savages say?

Anyway, I am glad to be here. Though I don't have full hope that it will stay free. The bullies are clamping down harder and harder on ANYONE who does not 1) celebrate homosexuality and the mental illness of "transgender", 2) the cop hating racists of BLM, 3) anyone who dares speak facts about Islam, 4) anyone who doesn't hate Trump, etc.

Like I said, the hypocrisy is what gets me.

I will not be silenced and I will not be bullied by these liberals/ so-called SJWs!
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[personal profile] kshandra 2017-04-05 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] lauramcewan 2017-04-05 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear.
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[personal profile] beer_good_foamy 2017-04-05 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well said.
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[personal profile] franklanguage 2017-04-05 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
elf said:

1) I celebrate the vibrant diversity of human sexuality, which in my religion is holy; this includes people's identities and expressions of their truest selves, whatever they have found those to be;

Let me friend you right now.

[personal profile] absynthe 2017-04-05 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Well said.
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[personal profile] sulien 2017-04-05 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Right on!
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2017-04-05 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I could like this post.
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[personal profile] moem 2017-04-06 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
You can and you just did. The old school way: by appreciating it and saying so. :-)
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2017-04-06 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
This is true! }:P
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[personal profile] putzhat 2017-04-05 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You are far more charitable than I would've been here. *applauds your comment*
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2017-04-05 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] st_aurafina 2017-04-06 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
*applauds both your calm and your words*
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Your Space, Your Rules.

[personal profile] ravan 2017-04-07 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, anti-gay, anti-trans screeds put people on my shit list. Now I have to figure out how to block people here.
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[personal profile] jessie_c 2017-04-05 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's truly sad that you decry hypocrites in the same breath that you expose your own hypocrisy.
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2017-04-05 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Their bigotry and stereotyping was breathtaking.
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[personal profile] goo 2017-04-05 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2017-04-06 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I had to read it three times, just to be sure I was actually seeing what I was seeing.

Of course, then, what I was thinking wasn't fit for print.
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[personal profile] franklanguage 2017-04-05 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Russia has no freedom-of-speech nor privacy rights.

Oh, just like the US.
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2017-04-06 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
We do have Freedom of Speech. That's called the First Amendment.

What we do not have is freedom from the consequences of our speech.

Russia does not have even a modicum of *that*.

We also have more privacy than Russia. In most states, what you do in the privacy of your bedroom is your business. You legally cannot be discrimanated against, based on race, religion or sexual orientation- though a few states are trying really hard to make that legal. In Russia, your sexual orientation *has* to be male-female, or it's illegal. Period. No ifs, ands or buts. You can be arrested and thrown in prison if you are LGBTQ+ there.

Here, you also get to criticize our government. Heck, you can even make threats against a former president, hang him in effigy, and though it is technically agaisnt the law, you are allowed to do it.

In Russia, if you even post something the government believes is dissenting, you could be charged as a criminal. That's what so many Russian, Ukrainian, etc, bloggers liked LJ. It wasn't *in* Russia, they could speak their minds, they could speak out against Putin. Now, they cannot, for fear of being made to 'disappear'.

So yes, you do have more rights here than you would in Russia. Be thankful for that.
Edited 2017-04-06 15:35 (UTC)
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[personal profile] cesy 2017-04-05 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
The image upload functionality has recently improved, if you haven't tried it in a while.
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[personal profile] azurehart 2017-04-05 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I hate that I have to agree to the TOS just to get in to delete my posts. I'm going to keep the account empty just so I can read things that aren't found anywhere else.

At least until the site implodes from the rampant assholery.
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[personal profile] denisia 2017-04-06 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
That really bothered me too, that I had to agree to terms I didn't agree with in order to get in there and delete my posts.

I've been cross-posting from DW and deleting my LJ content after a few weeks for years, so there luckily wasn't much there to delete, but still.
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[personal profile] moem 2017-04-06 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
And now I don't feel so silly for completely deleting my LJ a few months ago.
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[personal profile] hazard 2017-04-05 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] sashataakheru 2017-04-05 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there goes my 13 year old lj. That I haven't updated in five years. End of an era, really. :/
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[personal profile] arethinn 2017-04-05 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Blah blah blah Dreamwidth before it was cool etc etc. ;)
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[personal profile] doeeyedbecky 2017-04-08 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I HATE the fact that I have to delete it, but I am NOT going to have Russia have a hand in MY life.
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[personal profile] bradygirl_12 2017-04-10 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
After the dust settles, there should be a friending meme to find old friends and make new ones. :)
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Pardon my icon's French, but....

[personal profile] southern_belle30 2017-04-22 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
...I think I'm gonna liiike iiit here!